Do Classical Guitars Have Pick Guard? Photo by – pklonline. It's the yellow one. The only neck I have here to measure is 1-1/16 thick at the butt end to the top of the fretboard crown. I asked earlier in the thread is the overhang of the fretboard hitting the pickguard or anything? You should have enough clearance you can see light under the overhang when looked at from the side. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. Thanks! Ole'Lefty Senior Member. As long as the scale length is 25. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. . . . 2008 affinity Pw29 bridge Fender locking tuners Wilkinson singles Aftermarket bridge unknown brand 19k hot Roller trees Skinny affinity body narrow nut chicken headstock 08 fartcaster hss black headstock Skinny affinity. New media New comments Search media. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. 75" is very. Photo 4. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. 736The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. I far and above prefer 43+mm and 12 inch radius. Back when Floyd Rose designed the system we all know and have a love/hate relationship with, there were no such things as locking tuners or Graphtech nuts. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. Bought a tele neck copy from eBay, China, 25. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. + $12 Shipping. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. how to use metric units for the spacing of the top and bottom strings to the fretboard/neck edge. It will be less than 1/32" on each side by the 1st fret and progressively less as you go up the neck as you won't want to change the heel width. frank falbo SS. 13. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. The gap between the fretboard and guitar body is completely normal, however in the photo it. Either, but for 22 frets the neck has to have an overhang to make room for the last fret. Fretboard Overhang: When replacing a 21-fret neck with a 22-fret neck, you may. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. What you might be talking about is how the fret edge is rounded, or the beveled edge, it. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Fall Away: Fall away refers to the fretboard extension and building the guitar in such a manner that the fretboard extension's height in relation to the strings is additionally increased from the body joint to the sound hole. Or, you could use standard nut spacing, and only you'll know that the Low E string has a bit less overhang than the right, which will be imperceptible most likely. prorecordingworkshop wrote:. They even make [unlicensed] replacement necks for G&L guitars, which nobody else has ever done. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. Ontario County. Beautiful maple 12 string warmoth neck with some nice Birdseye figuring on the fingerboard. It is usually referred to as a feature. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. 5" scale guitars, but find that 24. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. 0625 is not enough clearance for a pickguard to fit under the 22 fret overhang when the neck is in the pocket. While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. THere ya go Yon - View attachment 959646 View attachment 959647 The pictures are pretty terrible, but you get the idea anyhow It's a 24" scale 21 fret neck with a spoke-wheel truss rod adjuster mounted at the heel. prorecordingworkshop. On the Tele body, a standard Stratocaster neck is sufficient. Roasted maple neck with Rosewood fretboard- Modern C. Once that's done, I do the touchup with the same needle files that I mentioned above. Somewhere, Wonderful. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. Compatibility Issues. I use thin 0,5mm wood. 83" at the first fret , . The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. . Anyway, I dig the J bass he played with both bands, but since I'm a 5 string junkie, I decided I want to make a MS sig 5. 75" fretboard is clearly a different shape. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. 0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed . For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Our "720 Mod" lowers the floor of a standard neck pocket from . Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. . Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. Also, PRS in general is not. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. #2. Photo 4. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. . 5 scale. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. 1. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)Solidbody Guitar and Bass Chat; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Joined Oct 25, 2008 Messages 5,211 Reaction score 1,736. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. Dec 18, 2014. File the frets back. 0″ thick neck. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. 5 radius fretboard approx . 070”, 0. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. I also had to move the bridge forward slightly to accomodate the new scale. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. Location. James Collins Guest. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Are you talking about the gap under the fretboard overhang? It’s where the pickguard (that you don’t have here) goes. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. 5 radius fretboard approx . 35mm (0. CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. #2. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. If the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. 5" and inside the box the neck will continue in and be glued to the underside of the lid. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. Staten Island NYC. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. - Pickup mounting may not work. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. File the frets back. I'm pretty sure the majority of strats don't have this, my MIM strat's board is flush with the rest of neck pocket. 83" at the first fret , . I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. Some strat necks have a little fretboard overhang with an extra fret that goes over the body a little bit. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. Black limba A2: 8lb 2oz. If you don't like it, you can reglue the fretboard extension and reinstall the fret. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. . First guitar build, first neck build. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. 83" at the first fret , . PG Custom Guitars is located in the South East of England. The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. If they do, then the Pro probably just has a shorter fretboard. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. About This Listing. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Only bodies and necks from. Builder: Valenti Basses. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. The neck for it is a 20 fret 34" scale jazz. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. If it is a Tele just put it where the 22nd fret would go in a strat. Then a tortoise shell pickguard, stamped metal bridge saddles, new pots, new cap, new 5 way switch and new jack plug. I have a 2019 Player Series Jaguar bass body. That neck-heel mark is a little strange, who knows - maybe somebody shaved off the fretboard overhang at some point. I've already routed out the pickup cavities based on a template set. 81" at the first fret , . The gap between the neck and body. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. or could just be the. . The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. "," (Please note, in FretFind the first string is shown on the far right "," where the high E string would be on a typical right-handed guitar. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. 09375. I'm guessing the Starcaster body is thinner than a regular Strat body so you'll def need shorter neck screws. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. Dec 25, 2015 #5. New Orleans, LA. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. . 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. I can see from the pics they definitely have 22 frets. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. Since this part of the bass guitar will see a lot of wear, harder woods are used. Tape the two pages together. I got some router bite on this fretboard. I want to make a 22 fret neck with a tele heal and have a spoke style truss rod. 125" (3. If the bridge is positioned further up the body that means that the fretboard is essentially shifted to the left. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. 5 scale, but shorter 24. I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. Hence, the hemorrhoid known as the "locking. Business, Economics, and Finance. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. Business, Economics, and Finance. 5" scale 21 fret neck installed instead. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. Price From $242. I like to see about . The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. 83" at the first fret , . Then I marked the string intersection points on this imaginary nut. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. 5mm + 19mm neck thickness = 25. But if I saw one with that much space, I'd have to wonder if the neck is original to the body, and if the body is full-thickness (or has a more shallow neck pocket). 069 and at bridge is 2. I got 4 bolt on guitars and on 3 of them the fretboard overhangs just like yours. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. There are four input modes for overhang. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. janeray1940 Active member. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Whomever it was didn't look up the specs on the elite. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. The Jazz is narrower than the Precision. The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. For example, as depicted in bar 1 of Example 4, take an open-A chord, move the shape up one fret for a B b chord, one more fret for a B chord, and so on. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)On a 50's 175 this distance was around 9/16", while vintage Guilds and Epi archtops are closer to 1/2" or slightly less. 125" (3. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. When installing a neck with a fretboard overhang it is critical to ensure the overhang has enough clearance to accommodate your pickguard. This is my first real project, I made an early RG type body (non-AANJ), modeled after my RG750. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. Standard Fender neck pocket depth is . Feb 1, 2019 #5. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. Mill your lumber. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . 375, at 24th fret is 2. NO overhang 4. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . " Might need to adjust the heel area of the neck or neck pocket, too. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. Kiesel/Hipshot trem. I should have put a layer or two of masking tape along my routing guides, to make the neck pocket super tight. FretFind. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. Business, Economics, and Finance. - Pickup wiring would need to be routed differently. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. The fretboard overhang is lower than it should, ideally, be, but the heel joint is absolutely rock solid and has not moved at all since I've had it: it should remain so for a long time to come! To optimise the action and playability I added a new Hofner-style adjustable bridge and lowered it to give an action of 3. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Will. Check out this video from Warmoth: which explains their "720 mod" option on their bodies which effects this gap. Nut: 6061 Aluminum (0. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. Add to Wish List. NO overhang 4. have a MIM strat body with a US highway one neck with 22 frets going the 1 humbucker route will i need to shave the pickguard so the neck will fit properly or what?? confusedThe American Professional II Jazz Bass sports smooth rolled fingerboard edges and a Super-Natural satin finish, ensuring that this is one J Bass that you won’t want to put down. Some of the necks I see have a fretboard overhang, some don't. I. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. Failure to do so could result in separation of the fretboard from the neck and is not covered under warranty. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. John Eppstein wrote: trock. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. Posted October 27, 2004. . I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. Close to Los Angeles, CA. I used a dremel to widen the arc. you may want to undercut slightly underneath the fretboard, removing some of the old top underneath so that the fretboard overhangs slightly, not much, maybe 1/8". . PG Custom Guitars. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. If you'd like a fretboard overhang, we'll have to do a headstock adjust rod. So you get a strat with 24 frets that you can actually reach (instead of that annoying fretboard overhang like Warmoth). 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. The fit and finish is pretty nice all over, with the neck to body join being particularly well engineered. The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. prorecordingworkshop. Mar 22, 2013 286 Alabama. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. And since most folks also shim the neck on the JM, the overhanging fret won't give any problems. I have needed to do it on a few guitars including my #1 guitar. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. I didn't even think of that. Straight Fretboard End. Using these drawings, the outline of the fretboard, leaving a bit of an overhang for the zeroth fret, is extruded into a 6. . Display results as threadsHey, I am the (mostly) happy new owner of a beautiful '97 Std Ren 4 fretless. 25,683. They are supposed to be 25. That would account for the difference. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. The thing is, the new Pro model only has 19 frets (as opposed to the 21 on the new 59 reissue and the older reissues). Measurements are. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. All kinds of materials are used for this purpose. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. (Coming soon! Photos to show fretboard overhangs and the movement of neck pickup routes to compensate for increased fingerboard overhang on 24 fret necks. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. On another note, you actually could use a 21 fret neck with the 720 mod and a pickguard as there's no fretboard overhang to cause problems with the pickguard. What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. I got nothing else. Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang (Note: 21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Fat Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. . 2. . This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. . On the other hand, a newer Heritage Eagle Classic had more like 3/4". Used – Excellent. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. Only problem is the neck sits too low in the pocket, not as in terms of the action, but the other way, so the fret board is push right up against the top pick. . GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. . Most conversion necks are in fact 24. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. Failure to do so could result in separation of the fretboard from the neck and is. There is no fretboard overhang on this neck. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. It's just a fretboard overhang so they could get that 22nd fret on. Two of the photos show the Wilkinson compensated brass. My guard's tort, so it might be a little thicker than a clear one, but I could gig mine w/o screws in it for sure. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. New posts Search forums. The fretboard overhang sits up off the top of the body by about 3 or 4 mm (see picture). 125" in either sides. Line up the two lines. Back in the day of 21 fret necks there was no overhang. 21 inch Fretboard. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Based on the unequal fretboard overhang, it looks like moving the bridge would fix the overhang and the pup alignment. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. 625" to .